Yes I understand however they are still considered two separate art forms, thus they are two separate pieces. The creators of the film cannot and will not assume anyone read the book (even if the original author wrote the screenplay) thus they have to craft it as it's own work of art. That is how I (and many of my colleagues) perceive film adaptations. I almost feel like I'm being treated as an ignorant fool because I do not look at the book and film(s) as one piece.gattoparde59 wrote:I agree. John Lindqvist wrote the screen play, and the film really does make sense as an adapatation of the novel. Eli is an engimatic character through much of the novel (a puzzle maybe) and that has carried over to the film version.
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Really? Where do you get that from? They are indeed radically different forms, as you say, and are mostly treated separately [though they can be conflated without too much harm being done, since as already noted, JAL did the screenplay].
I hope you enjoy the book, if/when you get around to it. Many people find it fleshes out the film very well.
I hope you enjoy the book, if/when you get around to it. Many people find it fleshes out the film very well.
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To me, they are separate only in an obvious but superficial way. I'm not particularly interested in either the novel or the film as a piece of art. Instead, my interest is with the story, or rather the series of events told by the story. The film and the novel casts light on the story from different angles, and complement each other. They are not separate on this more profound level.MaggieKayPresents wrote:Yes I understand however they are still considered two separate art forms, thus they are two separate pieces. The creators of the film cannot and will not assume anyone read the book (even if the original author wrote the screenplay) thus they have to craft it as it's own work of art. That is how I (and many of my colleagues) perceive film adaptations. I almost feel like I'm being treated as an ignorant fool because I do not look at the book and film(s) as one piece.
Edit: You obviously are ignorant if you haven't read the novel, but such ignorance is easily remedied. If you are a fool - well, if you haven't read the novel and still maintain it is separate from the film, then that stance is based on ignorance, which is rather foolish.
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But from the beginning Eli was just Eli. Nothing. Anything. And he is still a mystery to me. John Ajvide Lindqvist
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Please don’t feel this way. None of those who have posted here mean any disrespect whatsoever. It’s just the general consensus here that LTROI is a love story rather than a horror story, and that excludes the possibility that Eli is manipulating Oskar in any way or that she is grooming Oskar to be the next Håkan. Most of us who saw the film first, came to that conclusion based primarily on the way Eli behaved when she was alone, or knew no one was looking, e.g., in the bedroom scene, where she agrees to “go steady” with Oskar. That look on her face was genuine love, even though Oskar couldn’t see it. And there are many other examples throughout the film that show, at least IMO, that Eli is genuinely in love with Oskar. Sauvin’s avatar is another prime example of such a time. And when we finally read the book, our thoughts on this were completely confirmed by JAL’s more detailed storyline. This is one of the reasons why, to many of us, the book is merely an embellishment of the film. In other words, there is only one Canonical interpretation of Eli’s motives in the ‘real world,’ and they were expressed by the author in both the book and the screenplay, and by the director who collaborated with him.MaggieKayPresents wrote:Yes I understand however they are still considered two separate art forms, thus they are two separate pieces. The creators of the film cannot and will not assume anyone read the book (even if the original author wrote the screenplay) thus they have to craft it as it's own work of art. That is how I (and many of my colleagues) perceive film adaptations. I almost feel like I'm being treated as an ignorant fool because I do not look at the book and film(s) as one piece.gattoparde59 wrote:I agree. John Lindqvist wrote the screen play, and the film really does make sense as an adapatation of the novel. Eli is an engimatic character through much of the novel (a puzzle maybe) and that has carried over to the film version.
I’ve also just barely touched on the subject here. There are many threads on the forum that discuss these things ad nauseum.
We never stop reading, although every book comes to an end, just as we never stop living, although death is certain. (Roberto Bolaño)
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Oh I'm sorry, is THIS an example of no disrespect? I'm done here. I'm glad you all enjoy this story to the extent that you do, and I'm sorry I haven't had the time to read the book. Good day.metoo wrote:Edit: You obviously are ignorant if you haven't read the novel, but such ignorance is easily remedied. If you are a fool - well, if you haven't read the novel and still maintain it is separate from the film, then that stance is based on ignorance, which is rather foolish.
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Exact my feelings about LTROI in one reply.PeteMork wrote: Please don’t feel this way. None of those who have posted here mean any disrespect whatsoever. It’s just the general consensus here that LTROI is a love story rather than a horror story, and that excludes the possibility that Eli is manipulating Oskar in any way or that she is grooming Oskar to be the next Håkan. Most of us who saw the film first, came to that conclusion based primarily on the way Eli behaved when she was alone, or knew no one was looking, e.g., in the bedroom scene, where she agrees to “go steady” with Oskar. That look on her face was genuine love, even though Oskar couldn’t see it. And there are many other examples throughout the film that show, at least IMO, that Eli is genuinely in love with Oskar. Sauvin’s avatar is another prime example of such a time. And when we finally read the book, our thoughts on this were completely confirmed by JAL’s more detailed storyline. This is one of the reasons why, to many of us, the book is merely an embellishment of the film. In other words, there is only one Canonical interpretation of Eli’s motives in the ‘real world,’ and they were expressed by the author in both the book and the screenplay, and by the director who collaborated with him.

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Oh well I tried to include her and give her a chance to discuss the film with us but I guess she was overwhelmed by our infection.I guess some people are immune.MaggieKayPresents wrote:Oh I'm sorry, is THIS an example of no disrespect? I'm done here. I'm glad you all enjoy this story to the extent that you do, and I'm sorry I haven't had the time to read the book. Good day.metoo wrote:Edit: You obviously are ignorant if you haven't read the novel, but such ignorance is easily remedied. If you are a fool - well, if you haven't read the novel and still maintain it is separate from the film, then that stance is based on ignorance, which is rather foolish.
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