What I didn't get.......sob.

[illusivepunk]

I did some more sniffing around, and yes, these scenes are from the the 8 minute behind the scenes featurette.
Has anyone seen the new BR with the 40 minute "The Phenomenon of Let The Right One In", with actor interviews?
I guess I'll have to buy that version too - that will make my 4th one to add to the Swedish, English DVD and English BR releases I have. Sigh.

I think it turned out to be vaporware.

Yeah, I googled around and though it's mentioned on some sites it's not on the actual disc... a massive shame.

[Wolfchild]

I was also surprised that they used Lina when Lacke kicked Eli from Virginia.

THAT WAS THE REAL LINA GETTING KICKED?! I always thought that was CGI or a stunt double. I always grimaced at that scene (for Lina not for Virginia) now it'll be worse.

In addition to some of the comments in foregoing posts, if you'll look at that scene very carefully, you'll see that Lacke gets a good head of steam up, stops and gives Eli more of a push with the bottom of his foot rather than a real kick. I, for one, can't generate much power with that kind of kick, and it's not the kind of kick I'd have used if I'd been a real Lacke kicking a real vampire off my real girlfriend. I'd have used a flat-out drop kick that would probably have imploded several ribs. It looks to me like Carlberg was being really gentle with Leandersson.

From a fighting perspective: A heel kick is what you use when you are kicking at a downward angle or if you are worried that the target is hard and you don't want to break any bones in your foot. Eskrima has a specific kick called a Sipa kick, using the sole of the foot to do things like crush an ankle. I recognized what Lacke was doing as a cross between a kick and just using his foot to shove Eli off of Virginia. Plus, if you will notice, his boots have heels on them - an added little bonus for the target. To me, it looked like what Peter Carlberg was doing could definitely have had an impact.

[sauvin]

In addition to some of the comments in foregoing posts, if you'll look at that scene very carefully, you'll see that Lacke gets a good head of steam up, stops and gives Eli more of a push with the bottom of his foot rather than a real kick. I, for one, can't generate much power with that kind of kick, and it's not the kind of kick I'd have used if I'd been a real Lacke kicking a real vampire off my real girlfriend. I'd have used a flat-out drop kick that would probably have imploded several ribs. It looks to me like Carlberg was being really gentle with Leandersson.

From a fighting perspective: A heel kick is what you use when you are kicking at a downward angle or if you are worried that the target is hard and you don't want to break any bones in your foot. Eskrima has a specific kick called a Sipa kick, using the sole of the foot to do things like crush an ankle. I recognized what Lacke was doing as a cross between a kick and just using his foot to shove Eli off of Virginia. Plus, if you will notice, his boots have heels on them - an added little bonus for the target. To me, it looked like what Peter Carlberg was doing could definitely have had an impact.

But that wasn't a "downward angle" kick, and a "downward angle" kick isn't what I'd have used in those circumstances. Yes, in a hardscrabble "one of us ain't walking away from this" fight, I'll bring my bootheels down on your ankles, your wrists, your nose, anything I can reach.

Lacke's and Eli's relative positions made that kind of problematic. A "downward kick" on Eli's ribs under those circumstances might have just pushed her down a bit more closely to her victim, which isn't what I would have wanted. She'd have just said "oof" and maybe "ow". I'd have given her a genuinely heartfelt drop kick, the kind that can send a football sailing up, up and AWAY! right out of the arena.

[metoo]

I think Lacke's mode of kicking was quite appropriate. His purpose was to remove a rather substantial mass (compared to a soccer ball), and the kind of kick he used is the most efficient for that task.

[Wolfchild]

From a fighting perspective: A heel kick is what you use when you are kicking at a downward angle or if you are worried that the target is hard and you don't want to break any bones in your foot. Eskrima has a specific kick called a Sipa kick, using the sole of the foot to do things like crush an ankle. I recognized what Lacke was doing as a cross between a kick and just using his foot to shove Eli off of Virginia. Plus, if you will notice, his boots have heels on them - an added little bonus for the target. To me, it looked like what Peter Carlberg was doing could definitely have had an impact.

But that wasn't a "downward angle" kick, and a "downward angle" kick isn't what I'd have used in those circumstances. Yes, in a hardscrabble "one of us ain't walking away from this" fight, I'll bring my bootheels down on your ankles, your wrists, your nose, anything I can reach.

Lacke's and Eli's relative positions made that kind of problematic. A "downward kick" on Eli's ribs under those circumstances might have just pushed her down a bit more closely to her victim, which isn't what I would have wanted. She'd have just said "oof" and maybe "ow". I'd have given her a genuinely heartfelt drop kick, the kind that can send a football sailing up, up and AWAY! right out of the arena.

No, I was just trying to be thorough. The key part of my post was regarding a heel kick was:

if you are worried that the target is hard and you don't want to break any bones in your foot.

If by "Drop-kick" you mean a kick with the top of your foot, this is something you should never do in a fight unless you want to risk breaking your metatarsals. You kick with the ball or edge of your foot unless you are concerned that the target is too solid or will take a lot of force to affect. Then you use the sole or heel. This is what I saw Lacke do. However, we have all seen interviews with Lina and get a feeling for what a pleasant person she is. How difficult would it be to meet her on the set and then get in front of a camera and slam your heel hard into the ribcage of such a pleasant 11 year old?

BTW: If you think a heel kick or Sipa kick can't generate much force, then I would advise you to be nice to Woofy.

[Ash]

Come on! Who of us could kick Lina, weather she had body padding or not, with any real force or aggression? You can call it a blooper if you want, but I think it was just Peter Carlberg not wanting to kick an 11 year old girl too severely. And good on him for that. Apart for that, (in the novel) he had just shared 2 bottles of vodka and was probably wondering if it was all just an alcohol induced hallucination. I can see plenty of reasons why the kick appeared half-hearted.

[mackousko]

The kick scene is pretty raw. Although the kick is obviously not dangerous. Now i wonder how many repetitions / kicks was necessary for making the scene.

[EEA]

Wow I didn't know that in that scene Lina was the one that got kicked. I thought it was a double. Now when I see the scene I will be .