Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
I'm really partial to the dialogue before Eli lets Oskar into her apartment. Oskar mimics Eli saying, "You have to invite me in." Or something like that and Eli is confuzzled.
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
Should the Morse code handover scene include the playground swing trick that Oskar knows?
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
It is Oskar's tease or rather taunt to Eli. He realizes that she is a vampire earlier on in one of those monologues he has. He knows this from the fact she needed an invitation when she came through the window. It is another one of those moments that the "devil flew into him". One of those things you do to jab at your friend at his expense. With that "devil flew into him", description by JAL, it is supposed to be a cruel remark. It was not a nice thing to say. As an adult, we can laugh at this. Like two friends playing jokes on each other. However to a kid like Eli who is an outcast, this actually hurt her.Zhoutai21 wrote:I'm really partial to the dialogue before Eli lets Oskar into her apartment. Oskar mimics Eli saying, "You have to invite me in." Or something like that and Eli is confuzzled.
Confuzzled might be an apt word to describe her look. Internally, more like annoyed.
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protostar_01
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
What was interesting to me was that Oskar could be cruel at times to Eli. You have the scene you mention above, the slap in Eli's apartment and then the bleeding in Oskar's apartment. Eli on the other hand was never cruel to Oskar.One of those things you do to jab at your friend at his expense. With that "devil flew into him", description by JAL, it is supposed to be a cruel remark.
Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
If Eli wanted to be cruel, Oskar would be dead. Explains why he realized that if Eli wanted to nom him, she would have done it earlier. Then of course that came with his suspicion on what this alliance is all about after remembering Håkan, "the old guy".
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Come to think of it. Eli showed a lot of maturity in this area when it comes to her powers. She knows she can use it and seriously make someone suffer badly. We know she hates what she does to survive. At the same time, I think she hates what she can seriously do if she puts a lot of thought into it even if it is not for survival.
More power for that pool rescue.
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Come to think of it. Eli showed a lot of maturity in this area when it comes to her powers. She knows she can use it and seriously make someone suffer badly. We know she hates what she does to survive. At the same time, I think she hates what she can seriously do if she puts a lot of thought into it even if it is not for survival.
More power for that pool rescue.
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
I also like the expanded basement scene in the book. Before Oskar cuts himself, he and Eli have a mock fight. Something along the lines of Oskar wanting to play the knight that saves Eli from the dragon, but Eli choose to be the dragon that eats maidens. Cute.
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
Not so cute. Eli runs off to eat 50-year-old maiden later. On hindsight, you begin to see the humor of it all when JAL wrote this.cmfireflies wrote:Eli choose to be the dragon that eats maidens. Cute.
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To love someone deeply gives you strength. Being loved by someone deeply gives you courage. - Lao Tzu
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
I've been rereading the Eli "inviting" Oskar when he first visits.
I think JAL captures it very well.
Upon hearing Oskar's jab. Eli actually closes the door then stops herself and then opens it telling Oskar he can come in.
Two things comes into my mind.
1. Eli actually doesn't really get it. She thinks Oskar is giving her a cruel jab at her expense. She then attempts to close the door annoyed at the jab and then relents since she is lonely anyway and like to have him as company.
2. Eli actually gets it. Played along attempting to close the door and then opens it trading the jab with Oskar by showing it.
I think it can be read both ways. We know she has a sense of humor from the "bananas" scene. But she is also a child who can be hurt.
So how we read that scene depends on how we see her. If you think she is the kid who goofs around, then she actually gets it plays with Oskar. If you think that the basement vamp out has changed the dynamics of the relationship and she is actually quite sensitive and moping around in the apartment, then she was hurt by the jab.
I think JAL captures it very well.
Upon hearing Oskar's jab. Eli actually closes the door then stops herself and then opens it telling Oskar he can come in.
Two things comes into my mind.
1. Eli actually doesn't really get it. She thinks Oskar is giving her a cruel jab at her expense. She then attempts to close the door annoyed at the jab and then relents since she is lonely anyway and like to have him as company.
2. Eli actually gets it. Played along attempting to close the door and then opens it trading the jab with Oskar by showing it.
I think it can be read both ways. We know she has a sense of humor from the "bananas" scene. But she is also a child who can be hurt.
So how we read that scene depends on how we see her. If you think she is the kid who goofs around, then she actually gets it plays with Oskar. If you think that the basement vamp out has changed the dynamics of the relationship and she is actually quite sensitive and moping around in the apartment, then she was hurt by the jab.
Låt den rätte komma in in both its printed and celluloid form is a slow acting poison. You will be poisoned white. White from arsenic and innocence.
To love someone deeply gives you strength. Being loved by someone deeply gives you courage. - Lao Tzu
To love someone deeply gives you strength. Being loved by someone deeply gives you courage. - Lao Tzu
Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
The whole scene of Eli eating the woman with cancer -the whole 'tell me a story' thing.
Hakan's musings on guilt.
The 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' bit
Oskar's description of Eli as 'a little bit of everything.' You couldn't give a better concise description of Eli - a bit serial killer, a bit victim, a bit monster, a bit sensitive human being, a bit young, a bit old, a bit boy, a bit girl, a bit weak (sunlight, need for an invitation, etc), a bit strong, etc.
The post-pool description of Eli as an angel and 'hardly one from Heaven.' Also, the Angel of Death description of Eli at the hospital.
Some that have been mentioned already - Hakan and Eli's dialogue on the nature of love, the complete kiosk scene, the complete basement scene, the 'seen with love' scene.
Hakan's musings on guilt.
The 'Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' bit
Oskar's description of Eli as 'a little bit of everything.' You couldn't give a better concise description of Eli - a bit serial killer, a bit victim, a bit monster, a bit sensitive human being, a bit young, a bit old, a bit boy, a bit girl, a bit weak (sunlight, need for an invitation, etc), a bit strong, etc.
The post-pool description of Eli as an angel and 'hardly one from Heaven.' Also, the Angel of Death description of Eli at the hospital.
Some that have been mentioned already - Hakan and Eli's dialogue on the nature of love, the complete kiosk scene, the complete basement scene, the 'seen with love' scene.
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Re: Great scenes/dialogue in the novel that weren't in the movie
No, there was one bit where Eli was very, very cruel to Oskar - when he compels Oskar (by physical force, even) to 'relive' Eli's castration. Oskar is in shock afterwards, with good reason - actually he recovers very quickly. To force a 12-year old boy to see that as if he were living it (as well as the separation from family, the biting, etc), with the subsequent knowledge it happened to someone he loves, is pretty cruel. Oskar at least didn't know what was going to happen if Eli entered without permission, and in the slap scene he had reason to be angry.protostar_01 wrote:What was interesting to me was that Oskar could be cruel at times to Eli. You have the scene you mention above, the slap in Eli's apartment and then the bleeding in Oskar's apartment. Eli on the other hand was never cruel to Oskar.
In Eli's defense, he regrets it immediately, and may have been unable to think of another way of explaining to Oskar (just as he tries to get Oskar to see him showering, and instead of explaining just drops the towel).
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