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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by PeteMork » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:54 am

Tom wrote:And if John likes the film, let's hope everybody here will stick to their own opinion, and not say something like "I never said Let Me In can't be good." :D
Actually, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the majority of forum members here like the book and film far more than JAL does; and for that reason, could be even more sensitive to "misinterpretations" of them both than he is. I think the general consensus here is that Oskar's and Eli's love for each other is unselfish, and not compromised with secret personal agendas, such as grooming a poor defenseless boy child into spending the rest of his life committing murders for his true love. A film moving forward with this premise could indeed be well-crafted, beautifully filmed, and well-acted, but the core reason most of the folks here love the film and book so much will have been compromised. I fully intend on seeing the film, but unfortunately, it looks like I will know beforehand that their love for each other, or at least Abby’s love for Owen, is tarnished somehow by her intentions. How could the love be pure if she knows that every child she picks will become a murderer, and eventually be caught or killed – or perhaps even discarded by Abby when he is no longer useful?

The bottom line to me is: this film could be a masterpiece of suspense and invoke great sympathy for both of the children, and still fall short of creating the kind of ‘obsession’ that most of us have for the original. And, no, JAL’s opinion of the film will have no affect whatever on mine. How could it in view of the above? :(

EDIT: In fact, I hope JAL does like the film. If this new film makes one of my favorite authors happy, rather than upset, I’m willing to unconditionally accept that fact with an unconditional smile on my face. :D
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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by BadWolf » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:49 am

It just keeps getting worse the more I hear about the remake. Changing Eli's gender was something I never agreed with but I think I could have at least lived with that. This however (if true) is the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure if Reeves just totally missed the powerfull love story that was the heart and soul of this tale, or he has just intentionally excised it to make a more run of the mill horror flick. Either way he's made a huge mistake.
Actually the more I learn about it, the more I wonder whether Reeves actually read the book at all like he claims. The common misconception that Oscar is a younger version of Hakn is most prevalent with people that haven't read the book, so it just makes me wonder. In fact I can't even see this as a remake or a re-adaption of the novel anymore. IMO its a totally different story (albeit one where Reeves has copied some of the great work of TA in the original). I mean how much can you change from a story before it becomes something else entirely. Very disappointing.

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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by cmfireflies » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:02 am

wow there's another wolf here? HI :mrgreen:

I agree, although I think it's better to see another version of the same characters than it is too see a shot-by-shot remake. But it might be unfair to TA if people start praising Reeves for being "original" when he copied 90% of LtROI.
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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by drakkar » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:15 am

Frankly - I think it would have been better if he just had copied it, than starting making choices for me about how to view the core of the story.
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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by Cat » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:42 pm

drakkar wrote:Frankly - I think it would have been better if he just had copied it, than starting making choices for me about how to view the core of the story.
I agree. He should rather have made a 100% remake instead of enforcing this awful and misunderstood interpretation of the original on us. How could he possible have missed the core of the story he claims to have read? That the two loneliest kids in the world find eternal and unconditional love in each other. I have no doubt Owen's feelings will be genuine, but it seriously makes me wonder if Abby is just a manipulative monster. Even if it turns out she loves Owen, did she just stop loving "The Father"? Is she just moving on to the next "boyfriend" when she gets bored with the previous one? Either way, it doesn't sound like true love to me.

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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by DMt. » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:57 pm

Blam! and Cat arrives. Hey, Cat, trenchant summation there.

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Post by Cat » Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:25 pm

Thanks, and hi. Meow.

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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by drakkar » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:19 pm

Yeah, welcome! What's your attitude towards vampires? :mrgreen:
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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by Cat » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:47 pm

They are tasty, I can tell you that.

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Re: Richard Jenkins all but confirms... *spoilers*

Post by cmfireflies » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:20 am

I dunno, but I never found the idea of a manipulative Eli that bad. At the beginning it was a sign that the movie was attracting new people and that those people cared enough to think more about the story*

*I meant that people remembered and cared to think about their motivations, not that they were right.

Then I guess I started reading loads of fanfic where Eli is too "good" to continue to live as a vampire and decides to end it all, and that was depressing.

Finally, I guess I just prefer an ending where someone is happy to an ending where no one gets what they want, even if it's the villain. I guess I prefer a happy, evil Eli to a good, sad Eli. I'm going on the assumption that a manipulative Eli would make Oskar happy for a few years at least.

But that's just me.

And hi Cat! LOL for me!
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