Discussion (spoilers)
Discussion (spoilers)
Now it's finally time to have some discussion of LTODD. Since a proper subject would also be a spoiler, I chose the one above.
Heres the real subject:
Did Stefan and Karin find what they were looking for in Barcelona?
And a follow-up: What, exactly, were they looking for?
Heres the real subject:
Did Stefan and Karin find what they were looking for in Barcelona?
And a follow-up: What, exactly, were they looking for?
But from the beginning Eli was just Eli. Nothing. Anything. And he is still a mystery to me. John Ajvide Lindqvist
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These are exactly the same questions I would pose.metoo wrote:Now it's finally time to have some discussion of LTODD. Since a proper subject would also be a spoiler, I chose the one above.
Heres the real subject:
Did Stefan and Karin find what they were looking for in Barcelona?
And a follow-up: What, exactly, were they looking for?
The first would be good material for FF; the second, fodder for a rousing discussion in which Sauvin would almost certainly be involved.
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You really want some dreary old fuddy-duddy slinging road apples at LTODD?PeteMork wrote:These are exactly the same questions I would pose.metoo wrote:Now it's finally time to have some discussion of LTODD. Since a proper subject would also be a spoiler, I chose the one above.
Heres the real subject:
Did Stefan and Karin find what they were looking for in Barcelona?
And a follow-up: What, exactly, were they looking for?
The first would be good material for FF; the second, fodder for a rousing discussion in which Sauvin would almost certainly be involved.
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One way ticket to Barcelona, Stefan terminally ill, Karin the former head of the Blackeberg pool massacre police investigation, still obsessed with it - she even introduced the "vampire theory" internally in the police force. Leaving behind them a newly recieved photo of a still 12 y old Oskar Eriksson in Barcelona - I think I know why they went!metoo wrote:What, exactly, were they looking for?
They are reported missing in Barcelona: They could of course go away to die together, avoid getting discovered. A very un-LTROIsh way to go about the story. More likely, they went to find O&E. Did they find them? Probability is low, but it looks like they did.metoo wrote:Did Stefan and Karin find what they were looking for in Barcelona?
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Perhaps they found what they were lookng for, but did not survive the meeting...drakkar wrote: More likely, they went to find O&E. Did they find them? Probability is low, but it looks like they did.
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Well, that would be a sad ending, wouldn't it?Nightrider wrote:Perhaps they found what they were lookng for, but did not survive the meeting...
But from the beginning Eli was just Eli. Nothing. Anything. And he is still a mystery to me. John Ajvide Lindqvist
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I'm not so sure. In a way, this is an even darker part of the tale than Eli's and Oskar's. It's one thing for a desperate child, in order to avoid eternal loneliness, to change another desperate child into a vampire. It's quite another for two adults (admittedly in love) to seek that same solution to their problem, being fully capable of understanding the consequences.metoo wrote:Well, that would be a sad ending, wouldn't it?Nightrider wrote:Perhaps they found what they were lookng for, but did not survive the meeting...
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Then there is the the Barcelona photo, the one where Oskar is recognized in the background - it's of a family, two adults and two kids.
LTROI is both a dark and a romantic story, so why not? Karin&Stefan are about to retire from the world, Karen has been an outsider since she introduced the vampire theory to the rest of the police force. Now at last she is going to seek out the source to her obsession.PeteMork wrote: It's one thing for a desperate child, in order to avoid eternal loneliness, to change another desperate child into a vampire. It's quite another for two adults (admittedly in love) to seek that same solution to their problem, being fully capable of understanding the consequences.
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Karin & Stefan are presented as having very few social contacts, the only one seems to be the narrator. I also assume they have no children (from earlier relations). It seems they live quite an isolated life, already having distanced themselves from society. Instead, they apparently have invested their entire existence in their relation, something that is now coming to its very brutal end (because of Stefan's cancer). Then the picture arrives in the mail...
But from the beginning Eli was just Eli. Nothing. Anything. And he is still a mystery to me. John Ajvide Lindqvist
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It could also happened by accident. Maybe they were just there for vacations, spending their last moments together, when maybe Stefan decides to take a photograph, and later when they see it, there in the background are Eli and Oskar.
Or they do meet with Eli and Oskar and then that way Karin and Stefan tell them how they are part of their love story. Or Karin dies and Stefan sees the photo when the one who took it is looking at it, then he goes to Karin's grave and tells her about the photo. Or the person that sends the photo is someone who works in the police and who sends the photo.
So many possibilities.
Or they do meet with Eli and Oskar and then that way Karin and Stefan tell them how they are part of their love story. Or Karin dies and Stefan sees the photo when the one who took it is looking at it, then he goes to Karin's grave and tells her about the photo. Or the person that sends the photo is someone who works in the police and who sends the photo.
So many possibilities.