Ok, this "test" is absoloutely useless in most aspects (like most "feminist" "science") especially to determine the quality of a movie, BUT is still interesnting, it also works for the novel.
It goes like this:
1 - At least two women in it,
2 - who talk to each other,
3 - about something besides a man.
Basically is a measure of the representation of women in fiction (straight out from Wikipedia)
We have Oskar's mom and Virginia, and both, mainly Ginia, are attached to a male character (Movie Virginia is pretty lame contrasting to book Ginia, but that's spected do the time running and plot cuts)
Now, my analysis for this is, regarding charactes involved in the story:
1-It's a boy meets girl story (in which the boy is isolated and loser, and the "girl", is not only a boy but also a lonely vampire)
2- There are bullies (80% of bullies are boys I think)
3 - It does NOT touch sexual themes (so, less females for our protagonist/core story, actually female bullies could fit here)
4 - It features a obscure middle-age loner, somehow serial killer,and/or sexual creep (Those characteristics belong in a 92,7% to males)
4 - There's a group of drinking buddies (I'm pretty sure that about 89,8% of people drinking in bars are men)
5- (In the book) casts a teen gang (Once again my life experience tell me, about 90,1% of teenage hood gangs are formed mostly by boys, with girls showing up in parties/sexuality-relative themes)
6 - (Book again) casts a police officer (most of them are males)
7- And finally, we have Ivonne as the 3rd female character, not present in the movie, and still very attached to Staffan and Tommy's plot. Maybe Ivonne could had more importance, I liked her very small role in the book.
Conclusion, the lack of female characters (who intereacts each others) seems reazonable to me.
What are your thoughs on this? In which scenario could female characters be introduced here? and what do you think of the existing ones?
LTROI doesn't pass the "Bechdel test"
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cmfireflies
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Re: LTROI doesn't pass the "Bechdel test"
Wrong! Virginia asks the female nurse to open the blinds. Bechdel test = passed 
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Re: LTROI doesn't pass the "Bechdel test"
The contents of your original post indicated you were speaking of the novel, not the film. You may like to edit it to establish your subject more clearly and prevent further misunderstanding.
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Re: LTROI doesn't pass the "Bechdel test"
No. This is the film section. It's clear that's the subject matter.
The book was an addition, as usual when we discuss the film. Hence those ( in the book)
The book was an addition, as usual when we discuss the film. Hence those ( in the book)
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cmfireflies
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Re: LTROI doesn't pass the "Bechdel test"
Surprised Pikachu.meme
"When is a monster not a monster? Oh, when you love it."
Re: LTROI doesn't pass the "Bechdel test"
I would never have seen the Danish film "Italian for Beginners" had I not seen LTROI and gotten into Scandinavian stuff. Oh, and the Danish film passes the Bechdel test.
I hope you get a chance to see it (or have seen it).
I hope you get a chance to see it (or have seen it).
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