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Post by a_contemplative_life » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:20 am

dongregg wrote:I've posted a lot on IMDb. Said I wouldn't, but I'm so out of the Internet loop that I would not have learned what trolls are otherwise.

I didn't write anything on IMDb that I didn't write at much greater length on WTI. Which raises the question -- How can I archive stuff from our forum? I copied just about all of StrayAway's brilliant posts, but almost none of my own posts. And then there are the fan fictions. Oh my.
If you go to User Control Panel and then click on "Show My Posts" you should get a comprehensive, reverse-chronological list of all your posts. Unfortunately, they present in a collapsed view so I am not sure how you could copy or save the text of each post without clicking the header for each one. :think:
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Post by dongregg » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:24 pm

Thanks, ACL. I'm not in love with my posts. Not enough to labor through them and copy and paste them. Your fanfics, however...and other writer's great stories...
“For drama to deepen, we must see the loneliness of the monster and the cunning of the innocent.”

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dongregg wrote:Thanks, ACL. I'm not in love with my posts. Not enough to labor through them and copy and paste them. Your fanfics, however...and other writer's great stories...
I wish I could dream up a new decent plot for a Fan Fic. Unfortunately, my well of ideas has run dry.
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Post by Jameron » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:25 am

a_contemplative_life wrote:
dongregg wrote:Thanks, ACL. I'm not in love with my posts. Not enough to labor through them and copy and paste them. Your fanfics, however...and other writer's great stories...
I wish I could dream up a new decent plot for a Fan Fic. Unfortunately, my well of ideas has run dry.
Weren't you working on a court case fanfic at one point?

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Post by a_contemplative_life » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:32 pm

Jameron wrote:
a_contemplative_life wrote:
dongregg wrote:Thanks, ACL. I'm not in love with my posts. Not enough to labor through them and copy and paste them. Your fanfics, however...and other writer's great stories...
I wish I could dream up a new decent plot for a Fan Fic. Unfortunately, my well of ideas has run dry.
Weren't you working on a court case fanfic at one point?

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That ship ran aground! :D
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Post by gkmoberg1 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:24 pm

a_contemplative_life wrote:
Jameron wrote:
a_contemplative_life wrote:I wish I could dream up a new decent plot for a Fan Fic. Unfortunately, my well of ideas has run dry.
Weren't you working on a court case fanfic at one point?

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That ship ran aground! :D
Ship ... ran aground? What? Aground? Did you say "ran aground"? Nothing is ran aground until we decide it is! Look, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough us fan-ficcers fanfic. Yeh! So let's get out in the surf an push that start-off back into the water. Rahh!

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Post by dongregg » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:54 pm

a_contemplative_life wrote: That ship ran aground! :D
I remember it. It piqued my legalistic curiosity. I was also concerned about Eli's safety.

Consider recasting it as a Night Court episode? :think:
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Post by ltroifanatic » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:54 am

Yes.A court case.Open to so many possibilities. Drama,comedy."Yes your honour and members of the jury.My client is a vampire" The courtroom erupts as shy little Eli smiles showing her pointy teeth. :D
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Post by CyberGhostface » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:17 pm

Haven't posted on IMDb for a while but still a shame to see the boards go. There were a lot of trolls but the problem was administration basically did nothing to deal with them even with the report function.
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Post by sauvin » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:24 pm

CyberGhostface wrote:Haven't posted on IMDb for a while but still a shame to see the boards go. There were a lot of trolls but the problem was administration basically did nothing to deal with them even with the report function.
There's trolls, and then there's trolls.

An obvious example is when some [censored] wanders into a message board dedicated to a softcore romantic comedy and tries to turn it into a platform for religious or political war, or just to call everybody in general an idiot, a deviant, or something. These kinds of trolls are slam-dunks.

I've observed, though, that the meaning of the word "troll" has drifted. I get called on to settle the problem of "trolls" when there's a disagreement between two individuals as to what the colour of the sky is - the guy who's convinced the sky is always blue thinks the guy who says the sky looks grey to him as he looks out the window this morning is a "troll". I see the word "spam" as having similarly drifted in meaning.

Moderating on this board is incredibly easy. We've got a great bunch of mostly like-minded people who usually exercise wonderful judgement, and we have a strong tendency to tolerate folks whose views don't toe the "party line", often more a matter of curiosity and a willing to entertain new avenues of investigation than of simple civil tolerance. What's more, we have a beautifully crafted set of rules to point to in the rare cases of problematic behaviour, and we have five moderators, some of whom watch the board for new posts several times a day.

I have a suspicion the moderators on IMDB would tell a very different story. I don't remember what rules there might be, probably boiling down to "be civil", but IMDB's usership can hardly be said to be all "like-minded" people. IMDB's total range of interests, after all, pretty much covers the whole of the known human universe: action, drama, thriller, horror, sci-fi, war, porn, documentaries, romance and everything that escapes me at the moment. Some of the IMDB users have more than one area of interest, so it's not uncommon to run into somebody who loves horror, sci fi and political thrillers. Such people may not always mix in well with folks who love romantic drama because it can be very hard for the die-hard romantics to understand why the political thriller lovers just have to imbue every little thing with some kind of overarching political dimension.

This can put moderators in a funny position. A real moderator half worth his salt understands that his own personal views on a given work of fiction are exactly that: one man's perspective, and will be slow "moderate" folks whose views differ. He'll be slow to act on folks who choose to express themselves differently, and he'll do this in the spirit of promoting true freedom of speech - a moderator who insists on rubber-stamping "nonconformant" participants will very rapidly find himself moderating an effectively dead board. On the other hand, there are some folks who just have no idea how to interact with other people, or worse, some folks who know exactly how to push other people's buttons and love doing so just to "watch stuff burn". Failure to moderate such folks can also result in an effectively dead board.

Mind you, an "effectively dead board" doesn't necessarily mean an inactive one. I'm saying that a board that's just full of personal attacks, religious wars and the like isn't worth spending any kind of time in. It's a slum.

Since I'll cheerfully enough admit I've not even seen an IMDB board in quite a long while, nor do I know how their moderators are selected, I'll just as cheerfully have to admit that this one man's perspective may not even be particularly applicable. If, however, their moderators are selected more or less the same way moderators in every other forum I've been in, then there's the additional dimension that they're volunteers performing their moderator jobs in their spare time. Not all moderators are retired and can spend the sum total of their waking hours planted in front of their computers.

I've just now read the statement advising that IMDB is closing their message boards. The wording implies to me that IMDB has drawn the conclusion that the boards have become unmanageable. This isn't to say that they don't have moderators, and it's not to say that what moderators they might have aren't doing their jobs. It's to imply that increases in the complexity of board management don't necessarily follow board size in a linear fashion. It's to imply that not all of the masses use soap or have college degrees, and that the masses are... well.... massive.

IMDB is mutter grumble flipping HUGE.
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