If Eli Turned Oskar, Would They Recruit A Caretaker

[LastDarkness]

I like to belive that Eli turns Oskar. I have read once bitten, and before that, I never thought of it all simply being by accident. So, eather that, or Both Eli and Oskar agrres to turn him.

Im a fan of the darker idea where Eli accedentaly turns Oskar in some way. Possibly by losing control, or acting rashly, or him doing something rash.
After all the best possible neutral scenario would require Oskar to become a vampire to stay with Eli forever. Theres really no possible "Happy Ending" for them.

[drakkar]

Where I live is not Blackeberg, but it is Scandinavia. This year winter came early - it has been down to -10°C already, and we have snow. Saturday is November 13, the day Eli and Oskar was sitting on the train to Karlstad 29 years ago. The book and film settings are equally cold or colder (film).
So I would think Oskar need (warm) help pretty fast to avoid freezing to death. Turning him would be a quick way out of the problem.

[LastDarkness]

Where I live is not Blackeberg, but it is Scandinavia. This year winter came early - it has been down to -10°C already, and we have snow. Saturday is November 13, the day Eli and Oskar was sitting on the train to Karlstad 29 years ago. The book and film settings are equally cold or colder (film).
So I would think Oskar need (warm) help pretty fast to avoid freezing to death. Turning him would be a quick way out of the problem.

Get some good pics of the snow

Though that situation reminds of the ending of Ginger Snaps 3, where one *Spoiler* sister is a werewolf and the other isnt and is freezing to death in the cold

[abner_mohl]

Didn't TA say in another interview they were going out of the country, so maybe they were heading south for the winter.

[drakkar]

Didn't TA say in another interview they were going out of the country, so maybe they were heading south for the winter.

Oh I love speculation
In some other thread, JAL stated that Edvard Munchs two painting s "Vampyr" and "Kysset" (the Kiss) was in the epilogue "Let the Old Dreams Die". And "Kysset" was made in Nice ca 1890, so we can speculate a bit about that
However (from the top of my head) TA said that before JAL rewrote the epilogue.

[abner_mohl]

It was in the Icons of Fright interview back in 2008:
http://www.iconsoffright.com/IV_Tomas.htm[/quote]

Icons of Fright: Is he {Oskar} going to stay with her until he’s old?

TA: (Laughs) I think they go out in Europe, eating people, having fun.

[covenant6452]

I would like to think/hope that if Eli turned Oskar they wouldn't need another caretaker/helper, that they would be able to combine Eli's 200+ years of survival with some help from Oskar's modernitivity. The reality though, would be them not being able to rent a comfortable place to live, not being able to pay their bills, or do anything that requires an adult with some form of ID.
In my unpublished or unpublishable fanfiction I have them returning now and then to a cave, a cavern actually...Eli's "special place" that they are on their way to in one of my early drawings. I've had them sleeping in a badger sett, (I think a_c_l did that first though) an abandoned mill, in tunnels beneath the castle overlooking Uppsala, and in many other places that Eli has been over her/his long life. I figure that there would be dozens of places Eli has been invited into over his/her years (who would refuse to invite in a starving, freezing lost Eli pouting up at them with those huge eyes?) and if they need to be comfortable every now and then Eli could take them to one of those places and invite Oskar in...comfort problem solved.
But would that work? Could Eli invite Oskar in if she/he had already been invited?
Food is, of course, not a problem. I also think that they could both get a full meal out of an adult person so I don't see them leaving a double-sized trail of victims.
What did Eli really need a helper for? Why would he/she subject her/himself to someone like Hakan for, to alleviate the guilt of having to kill? Novel Hakan was fairly useless in that regard, I would like to think that having Oskar with her, having some constant love in her/his/their lives would help with that, if not to alleviate the guilt, at least to have someone to share the pain of it with.
I can see them making some friends like some others have given them in their fanfictions, though I don't cotton to the idea of someone being able to find them a "cure", I would rather they have forever to be together, sad sometimes, but together and in love.
In the end I like to think that having Oskar with Eli would hopefully eliminate the need for her/him or them to ever have any other "helpers"...of Hakan's ilk anyway.
I think as well that the "helpers" were a luxury for Eli rather than a necessity, even if they took away a small amount of the guilt, Eli knew people were still dying for her to live. Wouldn't allowing Hakan or someone like him to use his/her body as a plaything bring some other type of guilt or shame in to replace the guilt saved by them doing the killing?

[ykeleven]

From what I remember from the Novel, I believe after a long sleep, Eli is very weak, and that's when she needs the help the most.

Also, after they (Hakan and Eli) moved to Blackeberg, Hakan refuses to kill for Eli claiming that it is just too horrible. He tells Eli to do it her/himself. Eli says she/he is too weak for that, even though Eli was able to kill Jocke.

Personally, I do not believe caretaker is always a luxury for Eli. If this is true, being a LTROI type vampire is a lot harder than most other type.

English needs a singular gender neutral 3rd person pronoun. This he/she thing is driving me nuts.

[gattoparde59]

Also, after they (Hakan and Eli) moved to Blackeberg, Hakan refuses to kill for Eli claiming that it is just too horrible. He tells Eli to do it her/himself. Eli says she/he is too weak for that, even though Eli was able to kill Jocke.

There is an idea of Eli waxing and waning in her powers at work here. The other thing to keep in mind is that Eli does not want to spread the infection. For me this is how the whole weird arrangement with Hakan makes sense. If she has the blood brought to her as take away nobody gets infected. To make a clean kill like Jocke, she needs to be strong enough to perform the necessary "turning off." What Eli does is monstrous, but Eli is trying to prevent even worse monstrosities, like the zombie Hakan.

English needs a singular gender neutral 3rd person pronoun. This he/she thing is driving me nuts.

We can't use "it?" You actually describe what makes the character so attractive to me. Eli's existence erases the basic distinctions that we depend on to make sense of the world. He/She, Life/Death, Love/Hate, Night/Day, Adults/Children, etc.

[sauvin]

English needs a singular gender neutral 3rd person pronoun. This he/she thing is driving me nuts.

We can't use "it?" You actually describe what makes the character so attractive to me. Eli's existence erases the basic distinctions that we depend on to make sense of the world. He/She, Life/Death, Love/Hate, Night/Day, Adults/Children, etc.

o/~ Anything but Sue... o/~ ... but even for as hostile as I must sometimes seem towards Eli, I refuse to call her "it". Her beast, yes, I'll call it "it" - I'll call it things that can't be repeated in this forum - but Eli herself? Nope. She's Eli.