A vicious cycle.

[Cuchullain]

"...That you will never know the love they share, that you will grow old and die alone"...?

Yes, you are quite right DMt. The innocence of this love is something that the older among us can never know. It is something that you can tune into retrospectively if you can remember any pre or early pubescent relationships that you had in your childhood or early teens but it is not something that you can attain again in any tangible sense.

When people speak of nightmares they often tell you of horrific or psychologically disturbing scenes or scenarios. Speaking personally I have always found that the most disturbing dreams that I have experienced have been related to early relationships that I had in early to mid teenage years. I always wake with a sadness that is impossible to bear as I know that even if I was to find the person I dreamed of and was to re-establish a relationship it will never be the same as both I and the other person are no longer the people that we once were.

I think that LTROI and Eli and Oskar's relationship affected me in the same way that these dreams do. I seem to be experiencing the same kind of loss. I know that it is strange but JAL and TA have really tapped into this idea, whether they realise it or not.

[DMt.]

Actually, Cuchullain, I think this doomy pronouncement is only the fear that makes us sad; and I agree with JAL/TA, that the real deal is that love can happen for anyone, at any time, if they're prepared to, y'know, let it in.

[Cuchullain]

Actually, Cuchullain, I think this doomy pronouncement is only the fear that makes us sad; and I agree with JAL/TA, that the real deal is that love can happen for anyone, at any time, if they're prepared to, y'know, let it in.

That is true but it can't be the innocent kind of love that Eli and Oskar share. Casper has also given us a good example of this in his FF too. One could perhaps suggest that age and biology corrupt this innocence to some degree. Oskar and Eli have struggled in many an FF over this issue which is probably what led to Eli turning him in LTODD.

Of course I accept that love can happen for anyone. I am in a committed and loving relationship for the last 13 years.

[cherished memories]

Sure I understand that while LTROI does have a happy ending full of possibilities the entire story does have some kind of melancholy about it. I think that that is why this forum exists and why we are all here. I do agree that perhaps the sadness lifts after a while and you can then begin to see the story in a new light but after my first viewing the melancholy was intense. 3/4 weeks later I have come to terms with it and it doesn't bother me now in the same way but it has left a mark on me that will never be erased.

I can not speak for cherished memories but as far as I know he/she(apologies as I have no idea of gender in this case) is new to LTROI and so is probably feeling this melancholy/depression rather intensely at the moment. I think this is just the first phase of infection that the infected just have to get through.

(I'm a guy ) It's been a couple of month (maybe more, not entirely sure) and it's not so much the fact i thought the film had a sad ending, of course it had a happy ending! but it finished on a real cliff hanger for me, two children (one a vampire) leaving everything behind after a series of murders. I really want to know what happened after! hense the submerging of myself in FF

[mackousko]

LTROI amplifies feelings. When i'm in good mood i makes me even more happy.

But in bad days i´m close to commit suicide thank to it.

[Cuchullain]

cherished memories wrote,

(I'm a guy )

Glad we cleared that up then.

mackousko wrote,

LTROI amplifies feelings. When i'm in good mood i makes me even more happy.

But in bad days i´m close to commit suicide thank to it.

Yes I have similar experiences. I find that if I have read a new interpretation of LTROI like Wolfchild's 'Story told by Hands' or if I have new information like Swedish subtitles or the Director's commentary then it is a great day and I have to run home and watch it with new eyes.

[gattoparde59]

It has been a while, and maybe my memory is faulty, but I don't remember my infection as being a matter of depression in the same way described here. I remember my infection as being a kind of mania, a restless energy that took over me. The film helped me to understand why I was unhappy, or even that I was unhappy. I identified with Eli in that I found something within my self that I thought I had lost. I didn't want to be a vampire anymore, I wanted to be something better than that. As far as innocence goes, Eli is fated to never be entirely innocent. Eli is innocent as a perpetual child, but Eli is also a monster guilty of the worst sorts of crime. Eli is a contradiction in that sense. That is something I can identify with as an older adult.

It may be that I am chronically depressed and withdrawn, and anything that draws me away from that makes a deep impression on me. My adolescence was clouded over by this kind of dull, numbing depression and I had no real connection with anyone in particular, so I don't seem to have the kind of sad memories of an innocent love described in this thread. All this came later, and continues down to the present.

[cmfireflies]

It may be that I am chronically depressed and withdrawn, and anything that draws me away from that makes a deep impression on me. My adolescence was clouded over by this kind of dull, numbing depression and I had no real connection with anyone in particular,

This only that I'm not an adolescent anymore but still feel this way.

[cherished memories]

Thanks for all the replies to this guys, its interesting to read about all your experiences and how they differ

[N.R. Gasan]

I really want to know what happened after! hense the submerging of myself in FF

Welcome to Team Eli, cherish-m. We fellow Infected can all relate to your attachment to our favorite young couple. You'll have quite a lot here at the forums to keep you busy for some time. Just be prepared, though, when it comes to the FFs; while well-written, some of them are quite sad. Many members have reported being in tears upon reading them. Just letting you know.