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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by sauvin » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:35 am

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This one doesn't try to "tell a story", at least, I don't think so, but the story behind it is that I was bopping around some random links and ran across a picture of a nude woman swimming underwater taken from below. It occurred to me that there are some positions or postures a model just cannot manage easily unless in freefall or in water, so I did some more bopping around specifically looking for pictures of nude women swimming underwater for the purpose of playing with them with the image manipulation program. They had to be nude because I'm not up for trying to remove clothing digitally - the nature of raster images (as opposed to vector) is such that it's usually far easier to add stuff than to take it away, and it can be very hard to find appropriately "clothed" models when you're thinking about making lizard-like demons out of them. Most of these women could serve as models for flying angels or demons.

All the women in this picture are in fact fully grown women, but they've undergone some "cosmetic surgery" while being plopped into this image. They're shaped like women in overall (they have wider hips and their hip joints are further apart than they would be for men, slenderer arms, shorter stature, etc, etc), but they're a lot less buoyant than they had been, and now they're exactly like Eli except that they don't have scars.

I wasn't thinking about what I was doing while I was doing it, this is just how it turned out when I ran out of things to shovel randomly into it, so let a description of the image suggest what might have been rattling around in the basement of my alleged mind:

Oskar, the hand keeping his head underwater and the pool itself are all from a screenshot, and apart from removing a bubble or two from in front of Oskar's head and chucking in a couple gallons of paint, it's unaltered. The extreme left and right sides of the pool are a lot darker. People are coming from or out of the sides of the pool, and they look like they ought to be women, but they don't have parts, they're partially transparent and coloured in disconcerting ways, and they have glowing eyes. As his lights start to go dim, face starting to turn purple, he has an image of Eli where his heart should be.

Oh, and the water has a light reddish fog to it.

One tongue-in-cheek "interpretation" is that he's dying, and knows it. These disturbing human-shaped entities floating into the periphery of his dimming vision could be here to escort him to whatever or wherever might be Beyond, and there doesn't seem to be much promise it'll be pleasant. What he's taking with him is the one thing he treasures the most: the memory of Eli at her most pleasant, all cleaned up, nicely dressed, and politely asking to come in and just hang out. He knows full well what she is, but this is how he remembers her.
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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by sauvin » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:07 am

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This one is just me playing with the spray cans and the sheets of Mylar. Gotta say, though, Flickr' [CENSORED] obstreperous fulsome effulgent [HONK] reeking user interface needs some review.
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Post by gkmoberg1 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:57 pm

looking nice! I like the clear focus on her and the blurred image of Oskar.

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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by PeteMork » Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:33 am

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One tongue-in-cheek "interpretation" is that he's dying, and knows it. These disturbing human-shaped entities floating into the periphery of his dimming vision could be here to escort him to whatever or wherever might be Beyond, and there doesn't seem to be much promise it'll be pleasant. What he's taking with him is the one thing he treasures the most: the memory of Eli at her most pleasant, all cleaned up, nicely dressed, and politely asking to come in and just hang out. He knows full well what she is, but this is how he remembers her.
I keep coming back to this one. Itreminds me somehow of that T.S. Eliot poem, "The Hollow Men."

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar...

As Oskar approaches his (in his own mind) inevitable death, it seems particularly relevant. :cry:

Only Eli can save him now...
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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by sauvin » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:24 pm

Eli is very angry.

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In the movie, there was a huge BANG followed by a lot of screaming. Even if what Jimmy saw wasn't nearly as fanciful as what I've depicted here, just an Eli without fangs or wings somehow hurtling through the air and heading right for him with red face and clawed fingers, he'd have had all of maybe two seconds to try to piece together what was happening. In that moment of shock and confusion, I wonder, did he understand that he had only milliseconds left to live? I sometimes wonder if maybe some fleeting thought involving the word "justice" might have crossed his mind.

This image is unfinished, but it may be a while before I can come back to it. It's evocative enough to make a joke: when Jimmy was asked at the Pearly Gates what the last thing to go through his mind was, he answered "My nose." Other than putting bat wings and cat ears just for giggles on a picture of a cute Lina pretending to attack the cameraman, this is my first attempt at taking all kinds of bits and pieces and gluing them together. I've taken to calling this kind of image a "shop and chop": google around for an arm here, a leg there, maybe a wig, trim away unwanted features (the gymnast, for example, had tan lines. A vampire with tan lines, sure, uh huh...), and start getting busy with the glue, baling wire and paint.

The face really is Eli's, and is in fact the very same face as from the earlier image, but her mouth is open quite a bit more, and has teeth I picked up from some museum page. The eyes and nose are those of a cat, and the wings obviously of a bat. The arms are from a gymnast, I think, and the upper body from an underwater swimmer. The teeth came from a skull I found in museum site, but I only used one of them, sharpening it a bit and scaling it to different sizes. I've got some claws laying about to put on her fingers, but it'd take a bit of work to file them to fit and paint them to match, and that's partly why I say the image is unfinished.

Oh, and the pool really is the one taken from a screen shot, but it's just a little bit "remodeled". :lol:

Given that Eli is a preternatural being of some kind, it stands to reason that she wouldn't necessarily be constrained by ordinary natural laws. That's a neat little dodge to "explain" why Eli's arms and body are those of adults (she beefs up a la Incredible Hulk), and why there's nothing behind Eli's teeth but an abyss. On the plus side, I seem to be getting a bit better at matching skin colours and tones, but it's going to be a while before I'll be mixing and matching body parts between Swedes and Nigerians.

The teeth in this image seem somewhat more logical to me than what we usually see in a vampire. You really do have to open wide to bring "real" vampire canines to bear, and most such teeth I've seen only involve outsized and dull-looking upper canines. The usual vampire dentition otherwise fully human, it's not hard to imagine using the lower jaw to compress the bite site to help said outsized canines puncture the victim. However, given my assertion that the vampire's prey is the most hair-raisingly dangerous animal on the planet, the prudent and properly equipped bloodsucker will hit, gulp and be gone in the shortest possible time, and that means sucking down three or four litres of blood through something larger than a couple of holes the size of a Burger King fountain drink straw. It means tearing something up with big blood vessels immediately underneath and putting a good seal on it with the lips. Towards that end, the piercing teeth need to be closer to the mouth's centre and long enough to lock into whatever they've just gored. In this way, the victim's blood would tend to spurt right into the mouth, rather than trying to dribble out the corners of the vampire's mouth.

In the movie "30 Days of Night", I thought the vampires' teeth made just a bit more sense than just having outsized upper canines. Those bloodsuckers had dentitions that more nearly resembled that of a shark: relatively small in size, but many more of them, and sharp. However, in addition to the objection of having blood trying to go almost everywhere except where it's needed (!?), their teeth look like they'd break pretty easily, and I've an idea that most vampires would occasionally find themselves having to bite down hard on something with some bone behind it. The teeth shown in this Eli's mouth have pretty substantial bases (although now that I'm looking at this picture, an additional couple of teeth in the lower jaw would help keep the lower lip from caving in while dining).
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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by dongregg » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:25 pm

OMG! What hath thou wrought!
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Post by intrige » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:22 pm

Yes please keep going! :D
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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by sauvin » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:21 am

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Aw, gee, shucks...
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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by sauvin » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:05 am

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This is an image seen briefly before in this forum. I was rummaging around, ran across it, and used it to get some more practise in with flickr's [@#$!%@] user interface.

The text reads (more or less) "You would like me even if I weren't a girl? I've got a little problem or two". People who've never seen the movie might take the graphic as being some kind of stylised Oriental glyph, or maybe a cheap rip-off of the stick men from the Blair Witch project. Well, some who can see body parts in every Rorschach test they're given might see it (more or less) for what it is, but we the WTI denizens know exactly what it is, don't we?

It is what it is: a shape. One of the "hics" Eli might be worried about in this scene and in the bedroom scene is that she really isn't a girl, not on the inside, the outside, the upside or the downside. She may never have an "unf oof hoo marmph" understanding of why it's important, but she knows it exists, and she has to know that Oskar will be getting there sooner or later assuming he hasn't already started wandering into that territory. Well he bail when he finds that she can't wander into that territory with him?

It also is what it is: red. Blood red, in fact (more or less). Even if she had been a girl at some point in the past, the fact that she's wrapped in the arms of a Happy Meal On Legs when she asks this question means that she can't still be a girl. You have to be human before you can be a boy or a girl, and human is precisely what she isn't in at least one important respect. Would he run away when he finds out that red stuff she packs in her Thermos isn't pepper tomato soup?

Those two major facts of her life have pretty much meant a third: a lifestyle of fugitive isolation. This may factor into what she's worried about as well. You don't have to have had various body parts chomped off or really bizarre and objectionable dietary requirements to have had to live basically alone your whole life, and living alone means becoming a bit... well, less than optimally socialised. So, she's romantically undesirable, her eating habits would scare the [BEEP] out of most people and she's otherwise just plain strange. Will he run away when he finds that she's worthless with small talk?
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Re: From the light of a different sun

Post by sauvin » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:36 pm

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If you ever happen to look up at the night sky and see this falling down on you, relax. You've already drawn your final free breath, and all the worries you have in this world are just a snap, crackle and slurp away from going totally byebye. She'll take you off your feet, take your breath away, and, oh, man, her hickies are to die for!

And in your final milliseconds of life, what among a thousand different things might cross your mind? Not your unpaid heat bill, I should think, or your daughter in jail, or your fear that you're losing your job.

You'll probably wonder first about the strange and disturbing light. Maybe this is what first caught your attention, or maybe it was the sound of wings flapping closed at the bottom of a cannonball dive.

If you're really, really quick with noticing details, you'll see the head of a child on top of the body of a really buff soccer mom. So, what's the story, here? Is she a girl, or a woman, or what? But.. wait.. is this really a girl? No breasts, no belly button, no girl parts. No boy parts either, for that matter.

And what's her deal? I mean, she looks like she's dropping in for some loving, but most people don't just drop on other people from trees or buildings or whatever when they want a cuddle. They usually ask your name and talk about the weather before they start trying to sugge

(CRUNCH!)

"Artist's" note: This was just me goofing with more shop and chop, without worrying in the least about trying to make it look more or less real. The body is from a nude gymnast, I forget where the arms are from, might have been from a nudist camp. Parts of Eli's left foot are grafted from her right foot in this image. The gymnast most definitely didn't need any flotation devices in the water, and before I got busy with the Bondo and the spray paint, I promise, she was most definitely a woman. The head, untouched except for colour adjustments, is Lina's from what I believe is a publicity photo.

In other threads at some point in the past, I'd questioned Eli's need for clothing at all except to blend in when people are around. She doesn't get cold, probably doesn't have to worry about getting cut or bruised on furniture, shrubs and the like, and doesn't need to have pockets or purses to carry around survival essentials like credit cards, pocket knives or hair brushes. While it's a part of canon that Eli can "think herself" teeth, claws and wings (and who knows what all else she might think up), if I were an eliform vampire, I'd think all I'd really need are the wings and the strength. Buzz around at an altitude of a few dozen feet, look for somebody who's relatively isolated and do a cannonball drop that finishes up with my heels breaking the victim's collarbones. This, along with being slammed into the ground, would take away the victim's ability to scream or fight at least for the few seconds it takes to get the victim in a rib-crushing bear hug.
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