Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby Wolfchild » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:48 pm

a_contemplative_life wrote:
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a_contemplative_life wrote:14th & Final Chapter . . . :!:

http://let-the-right-one-in.com/fancontent/ff/chapter-14-redemption


So only one will leave the apartment? It has to be one or the other?

This was kind of evil. I didn't know you had it in you. :twisted:


Maybe the ending wasn't clear enough. I was trying to leave a little ambiguity, in the spirit of the film. I guess the outcome depends on what you believe. :)


Oh, I see. Was it you who posited the notion months ago that Oskar should be turned - not in order to save his own life - but to save Eli's?

And the thing about her dream and the hints about salvation were red herrings?
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby gary13136 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:41 am

I see said the blind man. Since I read the original novel, and now this fan fiction, I've arrived at my own conclusion (which seems to have become a habit).

Ambiguous ending?????

No further comment. ;)

Oh! I forgot what I really wanted to ask: when can we expect the Epilogue? :lol:
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby Mr.Sample » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:49 am

a_contemplative_life wrote:14th & Final Chapter . . . :!:

http://let-the-right-one-in.com/fancontent/ff/chapter-14-redemption


Oh my, don't let HonzaP read it. It might be too much to endure for him. If you could just somehow reassure us that, at least, the Cube is fine... 8-)

Now, please, let me make you all bored with my interpretation of possible outcomes:

1. Eli noms Oskar, but that few liters of blood isn't enough to compensate her blod loss and heal her injuries, so they both die (then Zombie Oskar resurrects). It's the least plausible outcome of the four IMO, considering what miracles a little blood can do to her. (For instance the officer's blood donation provided her enough strenght to stick it out despite the nasty gun shot wounds.)

2. Eli drains Oskar; Oskar dies; Eli stays alive, alone again. Wether she goes on living her - without Oskar - pathetic life or puts an end to it, it's just wan and far too simple for a potent tragic end.

3. Eli refuses to drink Oskar's blood, Eli dies, Oskar remains untapped and alone. Now this one is really unsettling. Oskar becomes the killer of the only thing he really loves, and what is left for him in this world is worse than dying in a monster's embrace. Suicide, as soon as possible, is the only 'solution'. The cramp of the hangman's noose would really be just a tender stroke compared to the stranglehold of the grief that the loss of Eli would call forth.

4. Eli should have died an instant and probably kind of showy death if Oskar had hit her heart with the blade, so this must be just a 'casual' injury - altough not a minor one -; remeber what tricks she has done with that broken broom. However, this little impulse from Oskar made the real Eli resurface. Drinking a liter or two of Oskar's blood could save her life, so in the end we would have Eli alive, Oskar turned, and both of them predestined for a 'happy', mutual future in eternity. I find this one the most likely. At least, this is what I would like to happen.


Edit: Darn, I'd chop my nonexistent hamster's left nut for a 15th chapter that sorts out all the misery. This downbeat ambiguity kills me.
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby a_contemplative_life » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:07 am

Wolfchild wrote:Was it you who posited the notion months ago that Oskar should be turned - not in order to save his own life - but to save Eli's?


I don't think that was me.

Wolfchild wrote:And the thing about her dream and the hints about salvation were red herrings?


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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby lombano » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:59 am

I don't really see the ending as ambiguous:

-If Eli couldn't keep herself from going after Oskar in cold blood, there's no way she could have kept herself from nomming Oskar when he offers her his neck. So for me Oskar's death is a given, especially given his health and that his sheer size means he can't lose that much blood without dying.
-The only real ambiguity is whether the stab wound is mortal or not. We have no point of comparison in this story with any other vampire stabbing-in-the-heart, especially since it is ambiguous whether the blade goes right into Eli's heart.
-If Eli does survive, her life is not worth living. If she survives, at this point the only sensible thing to do is watch a sunrise.

The whole transformation of Eli is very well handled. Oskar's plight especially was very poignant.
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby a_contemplative_life » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:23 am

gary13136 wrote:Oh! I forgot what I really wanted to ask: when can we expect the Epilogue? :lol:


Oooo . . . you really ARE a glutton for punishment, aren't you?! :lol:
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby PeteMork » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:36 am

lombano wrote:I don't really see the ending as ambiguous:

-If Eli couldn't keep herself from going after Oskar in cold blood, there's no way she could have kept herself from nomming Oskar when he offers her his neck. So for me Oskar's death is a given, especially given his health and that his sheer size means he can't lose that much blood without dying.
-The only real ambiguity is whether the stab wound is mortal or not. We have no point of comparison in this story with any other vampire stabbing-in-the-heart, especially since it is ambiguous whether the blade goes right into Eli's heart.
-If Eli does survive, her life is not worth living. If she survives, at this point the only sensible thing to do is watch a sunrise.

The whole transformation of Eli is very well handled. Oskar's plight especially was very poignant.


Definitely a solid interpretation, but another equally valid one might be that Oskar bringing her even significantly closer to her own death was enough to snap her out of her predatory state. While she was noming the policeman, he dealt her a series of severe injuries and her manner towards him didn't change ... yet it did change after Oskar plunged his knife into her chest; a serious injury on top of those she had already quite recently received. She reached up and stroked his face and brushed away his tears, and seemed like her old self for a moment. The very moment Oskar offered himself to her. I see a real possibility that this could end with them both being infected -- and thus Oskar would be freed from the guilt of having made the choice for selfish reasons. He turned himself to save Eli. (This is essentially #4 on Mr. Sample's list)
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby PeteMork » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:02 am

I've got a great idea! How about an epilogue? If JAL can do it, you can do it. :D
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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby a_contemplative_life » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:11 am

PeteMork wrote:I've got a great idea! How about an epilogue? If JAL can do it, you can do it. :D


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Re: Contemplation at Dusk

Postby drakkar » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:00 am

Mr.Sample wrote:Oh my, don't let HonzaP read it. It might be too much to endure for him.


Oh - he's recieving emergency psychiatric care right now - we're talking about something else happening yesterday :)
I'm a bit concerned about Covenant as well, but then again he can write his own Fanfiction :lol:
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