I'm part way through this (Clay is just about to listen to his tape).Bloody Mary wrote:13 Reasons Why
Curious fact: Clay is played by Dylan Minnette, who also played Kenny in Let Me In.
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I'm part way through this (Clay is just about to listen to his tape).Bloody Mary wrote:13 Reasons Why
Jameron wrote:I'm part way through this (Clay is just about to listen to his tape).Bloody Mary wrote:13 Reasons Why
Curious fact: Clay is played by Dylan Minnette, who also played Kenny in Let Me In.
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PeteMork wrote:Wow! I had a lot of toy soldiers as a kid, from snipers to guys throwing hand grenades; but nothing that came close to this.Nightrider wrote:Look what I found Pete...It's a pretty elaborate set. I wonder which of those little guys is Gregory Peck?
I quite enjoyed the format of the show where every episode was a different person's interactions with Hannah. I know Clay was the vehicle to our understanding of the story but I thought he was the best character in the show, I get the feeling I was supposed to think that. Having said that, I was shocked at one point to learn that the events were spread out over two years (I think I got that right, I think Hannah mentioned that it all started happening two years ago), so maybe the format was a bit misleading in that aspect, idk.Bloody Mary wrote:Jameron wrote:I'm part way through this (Clay is just about to listen to his tape).Bloody Mary wrote:13 Reasons Why
Curious fact: Clay is played by Dylan Minnette, who also played Kenny in Let Me In.
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I felt the same way about that scene in the bedroom with Clay. They obviously were aiming throughout the series for making Hannah imperfect instead of a virtuous martyr, but went a little too far so that it's very difficult to understand why she included Clay in her reasons. It was so frustrating that she failed to consider how believing that he was responsible for her suicide (even though she eventually told him in the tapes that he wasn't) would affect him, maybe even give him a reason to harm himself. She kept saying that people's actions affect others, but apparently didn't think about that in regard to her closest friend. It's not that her immaturity itself bothers me so much; it's that it makes her reasoning seem less natural, what other kids her age might do, and more self-centered even than her peers.Jameron wrote:
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I didn't like Hannah much. I didn't dislike her, but I doubt I would have been friends with her irl. She seemed to either overreact or shut down when things didn't go her way. I felt she was beginning to fall in love with Clay, or thought she was, but then she was very nasty to him in the bedroom at that party. I know that it was due to what Bryce had done but if she thought so much of Clay why push him away, and worse, why blame him for leaving when she told him to go? She knew that he was a "nice guy", an "innocent", not a player like the others, and yet she expected him to be well versed in emotional doublespeak and understand that she wanted him to stay even though she was pushing him away? That scene was really frustrating when coupled with her saying that him going added to the "reasons why". Gah! She did a very similar thing with the Counsellor, she made him start thinking that she was at the end of her tether and then brushed it away but blamed him as well for not following her out of the room and pursuing it. I feel very strongly that in both of those situations she would have overreacted if Clay or the Counsellor had done what she said later that they should have done.
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